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Unable to wash clothes with my GS.

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(@the-blind-wolf)
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Sid, not sure if a firmware update would solve the issue, but I'm stil unable to wash my clothes useing my gS and thats directly connected to the output socket, not through the panel.

 

It filled up the tub, but, its just sitting ther like a knot on a log.

 

maybe I need to try it with the slave going, but if it can't wash on the master, then if the outlet on the wall is pulling from the master then its not going to make any diff even if the slave is on.

 

 


   
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(@sid-genetry-solar)
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Thought we had it working earlier last year??  I'm not sure what the problem is.


   
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(@the-blind-wolf)
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Not sure either, I fired up the gs after so long of being down, got two set of agm batts on the master, it was at 25v, stat the washer and it filled up, then sit there for 24 hours with nothing but waterh in the tub, didn't do any agitating or anything.  Hit the buton, it drain, then started filling back up, then it agitated, then drain and then keept on cycling trying tp spin and drain at the same time.  I wish I could see the sign wave, I got a hunch there is something more wrong with this master gs ever since it blown the board.  I'm going to try to get a set of batts on the slave and then try running the washer off its outlet, and if it works then will know. but,  things like this makes me don't want to keep fooling around with the stuff. I mean I can go get my pj or another 3k inverter and run this washer all day long with no issue.  


   
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Posted by: @the-blind-wolf
Not sure either, I fired up the gs after so long of being down, got two set of agm batts on the master, it was at 25v, stat the washer and it filled up, then sit there for 24 hours with nothing but waterh in the tub, didn't do any agitating or anything. Hit the buton, it drain, then started filling back up, then it agitated, then drain and then keept on cycling trying tp spin and drain at the same time. I wish I could see the sign wave, I got a hunch there is something more wrong with this master gs ever since it blown the board. I'm going to try to get a set of batts on the slave and then try running the washer off its outlet, and if it works then will know. but, things like this makes me don't want to keep fooling around with the stuff. I mean I can go get my pj or another 3k inverter and run this washer all day long with no issue.

i don't know if this might apply to your situ but my washer went thru a similar issue that required some maintenance. after the repair i had to do a reboot to the system to get everything sync'd up again. so, if you have a newer unit with processor control, you might consider. 
forgot to mention. it is running on grid, not inverter

 


   
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(@the-blind-wolf)
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On grid the washer runs fine, its only when I throw it to the master gs inverter I'm having isue,

  I'm not sure when it was running good on the inverter if it was running from master or slave.  I have to trace the wireing to find out, that is why I'm going to try running the washer on the slave to see if it runs normal if it does then I know the master is still the issue.  I just got to go in there and hook up the lythuim batts to the slave.  Cause the slave won't do anything if the master is off.


   
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I think I told sid the washer was working fine when I had both the inverters running the whole house before it blown the master to hell.  

 

Since getting the master back, I've not try running my whole house but one time and over loaded several of the lythuim batts, where they burnned the nickle of the cells.  Even had one 200ah anytime battery stop working all together..  Right now going to run the master off of lead, and the slave off of lythuim for the time beain so I have enough amps for a full load.  besides, I got enough panels to over charge the batts as is. I got to program my skyblue to not over charge the lead batts.


   
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(@sid-genetry-solar)
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Posted by: @the-blind-wolf
On grid the washer runs fine, its only when I throw it to the master gs inverter I'm having isue,

Well, other customers having washing machine issues seem to have pegged the issue as being a lack of AC output filtration on the inverter.

Not sure if you have access to 10uF 250v AC-rated filter caps?  (Polyester caps are the ones used in the inverters.)  It's relatively simple to add a cap to the output of the inverter.  Most HVAC stores will have motor start/run caps--you just need 10uF.


   
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(@merner)
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I'm currently having an issue at work trying to get a washer working on an Onan diesel inverter generator. I'm leaning towards the washer being overly sensitive and detecting a ground fault issue. 


   
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Posted by: @merner
I'm currently having an issue at work trying to get a washer working on an Onan diesel inverter generator. I'm leaning towards the washer being overly sensitive and detecting a ground fault issue.

Any and all clues/diagnostics would be very helpful; if I know what the issue is, we can take steps to mitigate it.  Problem is my washing machine isn't complaining 😉.


   
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(@dickson)
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 Problem is my washing machine isn't complaining

I  test my washing again after  2 years and now works good with the 15kw PJ .     I  added 10uf to L2  and 6 more capacitors  externally  and  a large choke to the poaitive DC cable outside the inverter   and  a choke to the  ac line inside the inverter .     

 


   
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(@thebutcher)
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To me it reeks of some sort of power demand reduction reaction, ie where the network/grid operator signals to devices to reduce demand during peak periods.  Think along the lines of ripple controllers but more capable, but it could still be power quality monitoring at work.  I know my own Bosch machine will pause the wash cycle for a period, without any indication on the display to say why, if there is a significant dip in the mains voltage, which is something that can happen with a HF inverter.

I can see that excessive PWM making it into the inverter's AC output could trigger both behaviours.  Sure would be interesting to see what is actually going on.


   
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(@the-blind-wolf)
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So how many caps do i get, and what do I do? cut a cable and put the chokes on the black wire?  Let me see if amazon sell the thing..


   
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(@the-blind-wolf)
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just order these will get wensday

 

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Wadoy CBB61 Fan 

   
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(@dickson)
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So how many caps do i get, and what do I do?

NO  not do what I do to the  15kw powerjack .    Your  GS 6kw has enough capacitor and has the choke inside  and your L1 and L2  is exactly  equal  .    My dc battery voltage is keep  constant  at  58vdc to 61vdc  so always a sine wave .     My  washer will not work if dc voltage  drop to 54 volt  and  the surge  will drop the output  to 99 v AC  .   Make sure your battery  is  80 percent  SOC .    Sid say he thought your washer and  inverter  was fix ?    


   
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(@thebutcher)
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@the-blind-wolf have you tried an additional resistive load on the inverter at the same time as you try to use the washing machine?  A 500 or 1000 watt heater for example.


   
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