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PowerJack 30000 watt LF PSW SP 2 stainless steel case delivery February 2023

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pilgrimvalley
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yes, the landline phones i have connected to a VOIP system for 6.24 tax each month i get unlimited talk and free unlimited talk to Canada and Mexico also....it is connected to a  voice over internet protocol (VOIP), but like you say the actual landline connected thru a typical 4 wire phone is not used but the same style set of 3-4 wireless phones work well with my OOMA brand VoIP system..... my OOMA VOIP has 2 numbers and records messages etc,,,,,do not have to answer the robo/scam calls as it has caller id also....

garage sales are a good way to find great things for a lot less.....i usually think 50 cents on the dollar or even as low as 10 cents on the dollar depending on how much i like the items....yesterday i bought 4 pair of "keen" hiking boots./shoes  with steel safety toes >>> 2 pair brand new for 80 buck so 600 dollar new plus tax for 60 dollars is 10 cents on the dollar....yesterday at the garage sale citywide....today bought a lot for a little also........a pack rat but for tools,,, the wife buys clothes and decorations etc....today I SCORED  500 foot of cat 5e copper solid strand cable for 10 dollars today cost over 200 bucks new....

i buy electrical things also....especially in the off season for pennies on the dollar....a 4 foot electric heater for 3 bucks, another wooden cased smart heater for 20 bucks was at least $149 new plus dollar item if bought new...etc...

frugal shopping but selective on quality. & durability..😎.


   
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PowerJack 30000 watt LF PSW SP inverter 2 case module AMG4 version :

i ordered a hydraulic lift table on wheels from Amazon for $152.14 including tax and delivery..... the lift table has a 350 pound capacity so should work well for maneuvering the PowerJack LF PSW SP modular AMG version inverter which weigh someplace in the vicinity of 150 pounds or so.... my back says yes!!!! get the right tools for lifting heavy stuff...

(((((the previous two wheel dolly on a small table and pallet was not the best solution to move it>>> so the hydraulic lift cart on wheels with brakes should be a relatively inexpensive savior for my back... thank you))))

Still slowly working toward a better set up to house all the electrical equipment....

All the inverters are bench mount or put on strong shelves ultimately..... no wall mounting at this time.... most have feet like the old stereo receivers....

PowerJack 30000 watt LF PSW SP inverter 2 case module AMG4 version : I do note the stainless steel cases could be improved with a thicker bottom plate under the heavy toroidal transformers but once in place the thin stainless steel case is adequate as they will be stationary and not used in a mobile environment at this time....but a thick plate to support the step up toroidal transformer would be an great improvement to the design... IMO.....

PowerJack is now selling AMG versions LF PSW SP inverters with a built in 100-150 amp MPPT..... in up to 10000 watt models so still running circles around the copy cats.....🤣🤣 but inflating their prices somewhat....😒

supply and demand will rule thee economic success or failure of most new ventures....

At any rate 

Have a great mothers day weekend!!!! 😎

it rained hard yesterday in the night and lots of mud puddles.... great for all the farmers who got the crops in before the rains....🤔😎👍

 


   
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PowerJack is now selling AMG versions LF PSW SP inverters with a built in 100-150 amp MPPT..... in up to 10000 watt models so still  ....   

 Thank you for the information .   The  MPPT  has a max of 230 vDC so worth  about  250 dollars alone  .   Almost all inverter  company has built-in MPPT now .    

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I'm not sure that I would want a Powerjack solar controller, especially one that's built into the inverter.


   
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7 hours ago, RobertM said:

I'm not sure that I would want a Powerjack solar controller, especially one that's built into the inverter.

And isn't internally "integrated" to anything.  Funny that all of the listing photos register zero power or voltage on anything.

And the chassis says "24v Output".  On a 48v inverter?  Wonder how that works...

Chassis also indicates "30-50v Input".  That sounds an awful lot like a PWM charger--but what else would you expect?  Good luck finding any charge settings!


   
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pilgrimvalley
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Specification :

 

Brand            
Item no.     LFPSW-SP-SC-M-100-6000-24-110/220V
Continuous Output Power   6000W
Max Output Power 12000W
DC Input Voltage 24V
AC Output Voltage 110V & 220V
Regulation ±5%
Frequency 60HZ±3%
Efficiency 90%
Output Wave Form Pure Sine Wave
Temperature Protection 70C
Input Low Voltage Alarm 21V
Input Low Voltage shutdown 20V
Input High Voltage Alarm 28V
Input High Voltage shutdown >30V
   
Warranty 1 year
Net Weight 25Kgs
Certificate CE
Components Made in Taiwan
Design     Taiwan  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
solar controller MPPT
Systerm current 100A
Voltage  24V
No load losses <5mA
Charging circuit voltage drop Less than or equal to 0.20V
Discharge circuit voltage drop Less than or equal to 0.15V
Solar panel accept voltage 30-60V
battery bank require: 24v system
 
(Note: if your appliance is 1000W, then the battery need 1000W/12V=83A*3times=250A)

 

 

 

 

 

IT looks like they have a 24 volt unit and a 48 volt unit depending on the advertisement with the included MPPT solar charge controller ..... the 24 volt unit can be bought with free shipping for $499

if you mix up the ads and pictures do not jive that would confuse most people....

the 48 volt one at 10000 watt continuous inverter is the one they show with the 150Amp mppt solar charge controller

the 24 volt one is 6000 watt continuous with the 100amp solar charge controller....

one included a thors notebook with three screens with the 3rd screen being for the MPPT solar charge controller.... 

i think it says for 20 buck a year they will send replacement parts and it has a 4 or 5 year warranty.... hard to beat the Chinese at their  low wage..... (((whatever that may be)))

most of the established inverter sellers now offer the included MPPT solar charge controller.... 

PowerJack is not the 1st one but is not setting idly by  as they make continued progress....

I still prefer the inverter to be only an inverter and prefer to keep the solar charge controllers as separate units and will not be connecting to the grid or to a noisy petroleum generator.... so do not need transfer switches built into the inverter either.... >>>> less bells and whistle to malfunction >>>> KISS !!!!!

and do not want it to have to be updated by connecting it to the internet....so no WiFi board is needed or wanted in my off grid solar setup....

the internet I get for 50 dollar per year via a TracFone which includes a new android cellular phone and protective case, wall wart charger, 12V car charger, and 1500 minutes 1500 texts and 15gb of internet data... i just commissioned a new one for $54.24 including free delivery and tax that has a 1 year service plan and a Samsung cellular android phone...with a 6.5 inch screen...


   
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when I connect the TracFone to free WIFI i can talk to people with WhatsApp for free and not use any of the included minutes...

I routinely converse with people in Argentina, Chile, Bolivia, Mexico. Canada and the USA using the WhatsApp method for free...and it is encrypted....

 


   
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pilgrimvalley
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Specification :

 

Brand            
Item no.     LFPSW-SP-SC-M-100-6000-24-110/220V
Continuous Output Power   6000W
Max Output Power 12000W
DC Input Voltage 24V
AC Output Voltage 110V & 220V
Regulation ±5%
Frequency 60HZ±3%
Efficiency 90%
Output Wave Form Pure Sine Wave
Temperature Protection 70C
Input Low Voltage Alarm 21V
Input Low Voltage shutdown 20V
Input High Voltage Alarm 28V
Input High Voltage shutdown >30V
   
Warranty 1 year
Net Weight 25Kgs
Certificate CE
Components Made in Taiwan
Design     Taiwan  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
solar controller MPPT
Systerm current 100A
Voltage  24V
No load losses <5mA
Charging circuit voltage drop Less than or equal to 0.20V
Discharge circuit voltage drop Less than or equal to 0.15V
Solar panel accept voltage 30-60V
battery bank require: 24v system
 
(Note: if your appliance is 1000W, then the battery need 1000W/12V=83A*3t

   
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pilgrimvalley
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the 24 volt powerjack picture clearly shows a 24 volt on the case...

the 48 volt unit i would have to review the pictures on eBay more but it is fairly common for the PowerJack eBay venders to use the same pictures in multiple different ads...

they send out old manuals that do not correspond to the AMG versions and if you are lucky they send a black and white of how to hook them up....

they need an updated manual and a better ad writer....for sure

who does not like the powerjack girls????

but they cut corners on the paper manuals...

connections can be found on other eBay sellers...

I do note jack sends messages using Jack for his name no  matter who the eBay reseller name is being used...🤔🤔🤔


   
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pilgrimvalley
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Posted by: @sid-genetry-solar
And the chassis says "24v Output". On a 48v inverter? Wonder how that works...

pictures are confusing as is normal in their ads... doubt they are mixing 24 volt and 48 volt as you question...

but the modular AMG version units are three stainless steel cases....

one stainless steel case houses the toroidal transformer, another stainless steel case houses the control boards and MPPT

and the third stainless steel case houses the 3 LCD screens Thors notebook one for 120volt, one for 240 volt, and one for MPPT monitoring....

how they are integrated you would have to buy one and copy their design to reverse engineer it....

you can ask the seller a question on Ebay also may help clarify it some....

they use an 11.3 control board i think.... which another forum indicates saves the Mosfets....


   
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1PC jumper cable required, 
2+3
output operation:
 110V :
MAX 5000W
L1+N1 OR L2+N2
220V :
MAX 10000W
L1+L2
CONTROL BOX(15KGS)+TRANSFORMER BOX (20KGS)
UPS : Use your ac home power first, if out of ac power, auto switch to dc bank power.
ATS: Use your solar or battery power first, if out of dc power, auto switch to ac power & charge your battery bank at the same time.

Hello everyone,

With the summer season approaching, we are now offering you green energy solutions to set up your solar system.

This is a presale item, and the inverters will be shipped via ocean freight to the USA on JUNE 15th. They will start shipping from our USA warehouse on July 15th, and delivery to your location will take approximately one week.

These are LF solar inverters, not HF solar inverters. They weigh 25kg and are more powerful, making them suitable for heavy appliances and easy to replace. The regular marketing price is USD 1899.99, but we are currently offering a special price of only USD 999.99. Please note that this early bird price is only available for the first 30 customers, so it's a great opportunity to prepare a second inverter with all-in-one functionality.

In addition, you will receive the following items for free:

  1. Thor's notebook, which includes 3 pieces of 3.5" LCD panels. This will provide clear information about the input from your solar system and the output for your appliances.

    Valued at USD 149.99

  2. 4 pieces of power MOS boards and 1 driver board.

    Valued at USD 99.99

  3. For the first 3 buyers, we offer 5 years of free spare parts. Each year, you will only need to pay a shipping cost of USD 19.99 to receive the aforementioned power MOS boards and driver board.

  4. For buyers 4-10, we offer 3 years of free spare parts. Each year, you can avail yourself of the same offer by paying a shipping cost of USD 19.99 to receive the power MOS boards and driver board.


   
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pilgrimvalley
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the picture and the specification do not match correctly in the 10000 watt unit ad,,,,, on eBay.....they need a better ad writer....

it looks like this is the 20000 watt inverter AMG version with a 10000 watt continuous output rating at 220 volts with a dc 48 volt battery requirement.... 35 kg would be about 77 pounds so not a monster toroid inside of it with the transformer box says 20 kg so 44 pounds for that part....

the MPPT is 150 amp  >>> what will you receive along with the upgraded Thors notebook with 3 LCD screens???? evidently if your one of the first buyers you get free mosboards and driver boards for 20 bucks shipping for 4 years or so....

IMO >>> 150amp MPPT is better than a couple of el cheapo MSB ((now possibly a defunct seller)) versions probably..... if you were looking for an all in one type of unit.....with PowerJack AMG version LF SP PSW inverter.... at least worth a gander of their newer offerings.... 

to be a lemming or not???? will it be a Yugo??

the 10k with mppt is definitely a lot smaller than the 30000 watt LF PS SP AMG modular version inverters they sent me.

I use outback flexmax 80 and some others but no MSB units for MPPT solar charge controllers...


   
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PowerJack 30000 watt LF PSW SP inverter 2 case module AMG4 version :

PowerJack is changing the control board case to be a bit more compact on the 30000 watt LF PSW SP inverter 2 case module AMG4 version

Hi Sir, By the way, the new C BOX, we make little shorter than before, because we put the 2pcb board directly on the top of the main board, that's why the length will be less shorter than before, but inside are the same parts, please kindly note it.

<img alt="C-2.jpg" data-ratio="75.08" width="999" data-src=" " src="/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><img alt="c box-a2.jpg" data-ratio="75.08" width="999" data-src=" " src="/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><img alt="T-1.jpg" data-ratio="75.08" width="999" data-src=" " src="/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><img alt="T-3.jpg" data-ratio="75.08" width="999" data-src=" " src="/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><img alt="C-1.jpg" data-ratio="75.08" width="999" data-src=" " src="/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />


   
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they also say they are going back to the double boxing  to better protect the heavy inverters during shipping....

now if they would make a thicker late on the base under the heavy transformer to bolt the heavy toroid down securely I think that would be a major plus for their design updates...


   
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Posted by: @pilgrimvalley
now if they would make a thicker late on the base under the heavy transformer to bolt the heavy toroid down securely I think that would be a major plus for their design updates...

What would really help would be if they got rid of all the slop beside and under the transformer brackets.  With those being half an inch away from the transformer, etc. renders them almost completely useless.

All GS inverters have no gap between the transformer bracket and the transformer--and we have had ZERO shipping damage resulting from transformer movement.  Because the transformer doesn't move.


   
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